My right hon. Friend raises an important point.

I think it is morally right to harness whatever we can to help us deal with not only offenders, but the causes of offending.

I know that the hon.

My hon. Friend asks a very pertinent question.

My hon. Friend has put his finger on it, as usual.

As ever, the hon. Gentleman is the champion of the leading question, and I am not going to fall for that old trick.

I am grateful to my right hon.

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman.

I am always happy to encourage free association of workers. It is part of who we are as a civilised society. The hon.

I am grateful to my hon. Friend.